Dangerous Airport Tour 2008 / Dangerous or just ........?

[Ralph Henschen]

Hi friends,

you all know our FS9 silly Airports, but look at this, Leg05 arrival at SPVL - Caravelli:













Gentelmen, we have so many nice Airport around the world with difficult Approaches, but this is just silly.....

This is FS9 with FS Global & Ground Enviroment. I guess 80% of us have this...

Regards to all,
Ralph Henschen

[cpt_pickard]

Agree with Ralph here. Aerodromes difficult due to FS bugs should not be included.

Dan

[Kevin SAUDE]

Hello,

I think Ralph you're quite right but as we are flying with a simulator, this kind of situation is quite funny and we should take it easy and get the benefit of such a bug to proof our pilot skills rather than blaming the Membership department. (I am not doing demagogy  )

Edit : I appreciate seeing a High staff member who kept his sense of criticism against other department so as to improve your action.

[cpt_pickard]

If there is a bug in the FS due to which an ILS on a certain airport leads to a big mountain... are we gonna include it in the tour? Does not make much sense imho.

Dan

[Kevin SAUDE]

IS there so much (really) dangerous airports over the world in order to use new destinations each year? I'm not sure at all, but I may be wrong.

[Ralph Henschen]

Friends,

don't get me wrong,  I'm not blaming the Membership Department (They have nothing to do with this Tour).

This Tour is done by Flight Ops Dept. and I'm not blaming them either.

Just would like to see a Tour that has some Dangerous Airports and if posible with ATC coverage.

Like.... VNKT/LOWI/etc....

What I would like to say is:
 
That this is not flyable it's ridiculous. Yes this is Simulation. But even in Simulation I would not be able to land there,
if it is not with a Heli. Where did I read something about.... As Real As It Gets....

Maybe just some points for the Tour next year.

Regards,
Ralph Henschen

[Gergely Kósa]

Hi,



I checked SPVL and it doesn't have any problem neither in fs9, nor in fsx (see above)...

It is obvious that the 'hole' is caused by fsglobal, but custom meshes will create such errors at many airports in mountainous regions. So, I don't think it's possible to make a tour of this kind that is compatible with each and every add-on.

btw I don't think that 80% of people use fsglobal... maybe 5% or so...

Gergely

[Ralph Henschen]

Thanks Gergely,

Question: What's dangerous in that picture? It's a desert with some altitude

Well, then sorry to all for this post and sorry to have FSGLOBAL installed in my SIM.

Will have to deinstall all and leave FS9 as it came.

Regards
Ralph Henschen

[Cristo Santos]

Hello,

 I agree with Ralph.

  We know that this mistakes with the airports and mountains is caused of FSG, but which is the difficult? Dive your aircraft?

 I understand that a dangerous tour will be difficult in your approach NDB, LOC, VOR....at an airport surrounded by mountains, in a valley ... i think it's funny, not fly in visual and find these image.

Regards.

[Gergely Kósa]

Question: What's dangerous in that picture? It's a desert with some altitude

You don't know what's lurking in that desert...

sorry to have FSGLOBAL installed in my SIM... Will have to deinstall

No need to be sarcastic, you can just disable it via Scenery Library, and re-enable it any time later. I always do that when I have similar mesh errors (I use the simviation mesh).

Gergely

[Niccolò Melchionne]

Well,

I think that all depend from the interpretation we want to give to term "dangerous"......Dangerous in the mean of "impossible -or very close to- to land", or maybe dangerous in the mean of "pilots skills test"? I believe that the second is the best one, and I also remember that leg with that hole (and I don't have FSGLOBAL).....I'd like that this kinf of tour should be created based on the most difficult airport by procedures or something like this (thinking LOWI; LIPB; LSZA; etc etc etc)...I remember my CC exam from LOWI to LEPP....Pamplona is a very nice airport with a very easy ILS on one runway and a VOR DME approach offset of 60° on the other....Really nice airport

Regards

[giorgos]

With all due respect.... This tour like all the other tours was prepared by people that sacrificed time and effort.

My humble opinion is that the title of this thread " Dangerous Airport Tour 2008 / Dangerous or just ridiculous?"

might be considered demeaning for the tour and its makers and perhaps a more elegant title like

"Discussion about the Dangerous Airport Tour" might be more appropriate.....

Again, only my humble opinion.

Giorgos

[John Akkermans]

Question: What's dangerous in that picture? It's a desert with some altitude

It's not the look of the airport that makes it dangerous, most of the time it is the published approach which make it difficult to land. That is, if you fly it like it should and using your charts. We all can land anywhere, but the trick is to land your lady by the book. And that's what's the tour is all about!!!

[Ralph Henschen]

Hi all,

I think you have misunderstud this little post. Keep the HUMOR gents.

It's not the look of the airport that makes it dangerous, most of the time it is the published approach which make it difficult to land. That is, if you fly it like it should and using your charts. We all can land anywhere, but the trick is to land your lady by the book. And that's what's the tour is all about!!!

Fully agree with John here, but can someone tell me how to land by the book my baby at "MY" SPVL?

I think I have a strange sense of humor.....

Regards to all,
Ralph Henschen

[Lucas Rothamel]

Hey Ralph,

I'd seriously consider diverting to the alternate - I doubt the validators will reject it if you explain it in the remarks

Cheers,
Lucas